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post #1 of 69 (permalink) Old 31st January 2017, 04:27 AM Thread Starter
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Exclamation 07 SV1KS. GSXR600 07 front end swap help!

Alright. so I feel stupid and im getting so much freaking conflicting info!!!!

some are tleling me I can use a complete 2007 GSXR600 front end with a 2005 GSXR1000 upper triple (to retain steering lock) but use my SV1KS rim with the GSXR spacers and axle and everything like that is bolt on.

however! I have one friend telling me its not this simple. he says the rim wont bolt on and the brakes wont work!?

something about bolt pattern/PCD

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Here is your bible: GSXR Fork Information / Permutations - Suzuki SV650 Forum: SV650, SV1000, Gladius Forums

The conflicting info is caused by dimension differences...SV1000 vs SV650. You can use SV1000 wheel on GSXR forks, it will bolt on and rotors will align to calipers right. The SV650 is different though, it won't fit...ever.

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some are tleling me I can use a complete 2007 GSXR600 front end with a 2005 GSXR1000 upper triple (to retain steering lock) but use my SV1KS rim with the GSXR spacers and axle and everything like that is bolt on.
All you listed will actually fit together (gsxr forks, gsxr lower/upper, gsxr axle, sv wheel and rotors, gsxr calipers). You can also combine quite a lot here...just keep an eye on fork length, fork diameter, triple offset, caliper type, rotor used - use the bible.

Upper tripple GSXR1000 K5-K6 or GSXR600/750 K4-K5 (this one actually has same shape as SV, but you have to mill the stem hole).

If your rotors are OK, just keep them. They are 310mm, same as newer GSXRs. Rotors from various older GSXRs will fit SV1000 wheel no problem. Newer GSXRs has different pattern and holes, so they fit only own wheels.

See the bible for more details.

EDIT: When you go with gsxr calipers, consider getting better (larger) master cylinder. 16mm SV MC is too small and brakes will feel really soft.
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I have 07 750 forks, triples, axle with stock wheel, rotors and R6 calipers.
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thanks man! 07 full set with 05 1000 upper ordered today! from mr brandon himself. $500 shipped

I just wanted to retain my steering lock lol. idc if its forwards vs sideways.

thanks!! also ordered my lowers...ouch
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Err, I guess I have the 05/06 1000 top triple with centered ignition switch... I forgot about that. Lock is dead center, but it's something.

Your lowers?
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K6+ top clamps have oblong ignition switch holes, don't need to have the steering stem hole opened up, and will only lock in the center.

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K6+ top clamps have oblong ignition switch holes, don't need to have the steering stem hole opened up, and will only lock in the center.
It really depends on displacement.

The hole in the frame for steering lock on 2nd gen SV650s and all SV1000s is centered.

The stock top triple clamp has the ignition switch offset to the right, so that steering lock works with the bars full lock left.

01-03 750 is 32mm offset, 25mm stem hole, ignition offset to the right (correct for our bikes)

04/05 600/750 is 30mm offset, 25mm stem hole, ignition offset to the right

01/02 1000 is 32mm offset, 25mm stem hole, ignition offset to the right

03/04 1000 is 32mm offset, 28mm stem hole, ignition offset to the right

06-09 600/750 is 30mm offset, 28mm stem hole, ignition offset to the left (too far to use)

05/06 1000 is 30mm offset, 28mm stem hole, ignition centered (straight steering lock)

07-09 1000 is 28mm offset, 28mm stem hole, ignition offset to the left


06-09 600/750 are the best fork choice (due to length, valving, overall quality). They use 53mm lower triple clamps (most of the other ones are 54mm, with 07-09 1000 56).

If you're using 06-09 600/750 forks, you need to use a triple from the same series bike.

If you want a top triple clamp that bolts up, you have two options: 06-09 600/750 or 05/06 1000. The former has no steering lock, the latter has centered steering lock.

If you're willing to have some machining done, you can use 03-04 600/750 top clamp with the hole opened up to 28mm. This will give you a normal steering lock (locks with bars at full lock left). This is a reasonably simple machining task.

If you're willing to have more difficult machining done, you can use 01/02 1000 or 01-03 750. The hole has to be opened up and moved. This is a more difficult operation.

It's also possible to press in (with the right locking compound) a slug and then put a new (offset) hole in the 03/04 1000 triples.


I'm pretty sure I have all of this right, but can't guarantee it.
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K6+ top clamps have oblong ignition switch holes, don't need to have the steering stem hole opened up, and will only lock in the center.
Nope, if they lock, they lock with wheel to the right (because ignition is on left side + hole in the frame in the center)...so quite inappropriate.

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06-09 600/750 are the best fork choice (due to length, valving, overall quality). They use 53mm lower triple clamps (most of the other ones are 54mm, with 07-09 1000 56).

If you're using 06-09 600/750 forks, you need to use a triple from the same series bike.

If you want a top triple clamp that bolts up, you have two options: 06-09 600/750 or 05/06 1000. The former has no steering lock, the latter has centered steering lock.
Actually GSXR600/750 have 2 model lines over these years. It is K6-K7 and K8-L0...they have different forks, wheels and rotor (bolt patterns). So even L0 can be used for the easy swap

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If you're willing to have some machining done, you can use 03-04 600/750 top clamp with the hole opened up to 28mm. This will give you a normal steering lock (locks with bars at full lock left). This is a reasonably simple machining task.
It is GSXR600/750 K4-K5. And usually the 600's tripples come with "GSXR 600" text on them....so only 750's are "usable". The look is pretty sick though
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Looks mostly right.

Except for this part.
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If you're using 06-09 600/750 forks, you need to use a triple from the same series bike.
I have one bike set up with K4-5 upper and lower triples, and K6 750 forks.
The thing is, that you need to know exactly what you have, and how to make it work. I happened to have near enough to perfect size aluminum shim stock, and I shimmed the lower to accommodate the difference in diameter.
My other one has K6 lower, K5 top clamp, and K6 forks, so I only had to open up the stem hole to 28mm.

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Nope, if they lock, they lock with wheel to the right (because ignition is on left side + hole in the frame in the center)...so quite inappropriate.

Actually GSXR600/750 have 2 model lines over these years. It is K6-K7 and K8-L0...they have different forks, wheels and rotor (bolt patterns). So even L0 can be used for the easy swap

It is GSXR600/750 K4-K5. And usually the 600's tripples come with "GSXR 600" text on them....so only 750's are "usable". The look is pretty sick though
My understanding was that the forks themselves are somewhat different but interchangeable as a pair. Dimensions in important places are the same. Valving might be different, I don't know.

While the wheel and rotors did change from 07 to 08 (straight spoke to twisted spoke), you can swap complete wheel with rotors between the two with no other changes. Similarly, you can put a wheel from any of those onto your SV1000 with no changes, or put your SV1000 front wheel into those forks (I have 07 750 forks, with my stock wheel).
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My understanding was that the forks themselves are somewhat different but interchangeable as a pair. Dimensions in important places are the same. Valving might be different, I don't know.
Correct. I would say internals were changed/udpated between these models, as they have different valving system and fork caps. There is almost none price difference between them, so I would highly suggest everyone going for the K8-L0.

All GSXRs have BPF forks starting on L1 model. No clue though, what are their dimensions overall and if they are still proper choice for swap...but these were quite expensive at the time I was gathering parts...so decided to go for K8-L0 ones.
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I believe the L1 and up 600/750 also use a smaller axle, so you can't (easily) use an earlier wheel.
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Hey there. So your info is a bit backwards. The gsxr 1000 top triple will allow to lock steering, but only straight ahead. You need the top triple from an 04/05 600/750 to retain the full left steering lock. 07 top triple has the key to the left , and just wont work.

As for the axle, on an sv1k the axle will work with stock sv wheel, just make sure you have the spacer that goes on riders left side of the axle. The gsxr after I believe 05 went to an actual bolt rather than a collar nut like ours. So, that spacer replaces where the end of the collar nut goes.
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Disregard my last post, phone was being screwy and didnt show all previous replies, thought I was first to respond. All good info above me though, Im in the middle of an 06 gsxr1k swap onto my 06 sv1k right now.
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any tips for the swap? getting my front end in a week

was planning on reusing the rim/tire and the clip ons and levers and lines. everything else swap.

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