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Crush washer for oil pan drain bolt

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I'm about to run out and get some oil and a filter for a routine oil change. I figured this time I should get a new crush washer for the oil pan drain plug.

Does anyone know the crush washer part number? Is it the same size as on gixxers? Should I be able to just walk in to a dealer and ask for a crush washer for an SV (or gixxer) and get one?

If I don't get any replies before I leave, I'll let you know how I make out. The dealer is only a couple miles down the road...

I figured this weekend is a good one for maintenance stuff since there is a hurricane off the coast screwing up our weather (although it's nice out now.)

EDIT: On Ron Ayers site it shows the crush washer as "discontinued" - wha?
( 24 ) 09168-14002 Discontinued

EDIT2: Nevermind - it's superceeded... (wonder why?)
09168-14002 is superseded to 09168-14004
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Hi all,
Is it the same size as on gixxers? Should I be able to just walk in to a dealer and ask for a crush (gixxer) and get one?
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Gixxer one works fine...thats what i'm runnin

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Just stop by the dealership and ask for a crush washer for an SV1000. More then likely most if not all Suzuki's use the same one anyway. My dealer looked it up and said they did not have the one listed but had this one and it was exactly the same. The latest ones I got were 09168-14004.

You might be able to find something at an auto parts store but the Suzuki ones are a marval in engineering. They actually crush unlike many others that only seal. Very important if you don't want to strip the threads.

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Thanks guys. I'm about to head out the door...
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Local shop didn't have 09168-14004 or 09168-14002, but they gave me a 14mm Honda crush washer. It looks about the same.

I'm going to a BBQ, so I'm not changing the oil until tomorrow. My buddy at the dealer (who has a gixxer) said that they do strip out a lot (the drain bolts) on gixxers, but not so much on the SV. It might just be that there are so many more gixxers out there than SVs. I know I never bring mine in for service to that particular dealer. I only buy fluids and filters from them.

Anyway, I'll report back on the Honda crush washer tomorrow. I expect it's fine.
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Local shop didn't have 09168-14004 or 09168-14002, but they gave me a 14mm Honda crush washer. It looks about the same.

I'm going to a BBQ, so I'm not changing the oil until tomorrow. My buddy at the dealer (who has a gixxer) said that they do strip out a lot (the drain bolts) on gixxers, but not so much on the SV. It might just be that there are so many more gixxers out there than SVs. I know I never bring mine in for service to that particular dealer. I only buy fluids and filters from them.

Anyway, I'll report back on the Honda crush washer tomorrow. I expect it's fine.
I am sure it will be fine. In fact its probably made by the same contractor in Japan.

I believe even with great care the oil drain plug will eventually strip out and leak. If you had all the time in the world and the knowledge it might not be a bad idea just to fix it permanently. I am not really worried about it as just about any motorcycle dealership should be well versed in fixing it and the fix will make it better then before.

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Last time I checked, Suzuki switched to solid copper washers for the oil drain bolt. I used to get the crush washer every time.... but about a year ago my local dealer said they switched/updated to a solid copper washer. I had mixed feelings about it, but it turns out that the solid copper washer doesn't leak a drop, and can be used over and over again. The washer is actually starting to out last the bolt at this point, as the hex is starting to round at the edges

As far as stripping th hole? Never seen it on either of my SV's, or my buddies. (though though bolt head is starting to go, as I said). However, a drain bolt really shouldn't have a lot of torque on it...... only 16.5 lb/ft according to the manual. #1 cause of screwed up oil holes & plugs is over tightening the damn thing (with is WHY my bolt is starting to go )

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I've never changed the oil drain washer on the many Jap bikes I've owned. I've never had an oil leak from the drain plug.

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Yeah, I've never had a leak there either, but for 80 cents, I figured what the heck - I'll replace this washer this time...

I still haven't gotten to it yet. I slept in a little late today.
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I've never changed the oil drain washer on the many Jap bikes I've owned. I've never had an oil leak from the drain plug.

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Same here but I ALWAYS use a torque wrench when putting the drain plug back in.
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Yikes. Best of luck to you. You may get lucky... but I am betting in the long run the case threads will get stripped.

To each their own. Using a torque wrench probably helps, but not a chance I want to take. $10 over the life of my SV is a pretty cheap price to pay versus retapping.
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if you have a lower fairing/protection, you may want to consider a fumoto valve.
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Help! I stripped my oil pan bolt!! I tightened it up without a torque wrench, and it just kept tightening.. I left it as it was, checked for a leak and rode it hard for a day constantly checking but no oil leak. Any suggestions as to a fix? I'm hoping the bolt threads are the weak material as opposed to the oil pan threads but I wouldn't know.. If it isn't the bolt that is stripped, what happens next? I'm assuming I can find this bolt at a dealership..
Any help is appreciated
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Help! I stripped my oil pan bolt!! I tightened it up without a torque wrench, and it just kept tightening.. I left it as it was, tested it and rode it hard for a day constantly checking but no leak. Any suggestions as to a fix? I'm hoping the bolt threads are the weak material as opposed to the oil pan threads but I wouldn't know..
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Don't worry its not the end of the world. You're not the first member to do this and I'm sure you won't be the last. You might want to check the local bike service shops and see if someone can tap the hole with a slightly bigger thread size and then use a bigger plug or install something called a heli-coil. See this THREAD

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Thanks for the thread, it's bedtime here so I took a quick search but didn't turn up anything on plug stripping.
I'm 19 years old, still schooling hard and don't have the money for any fancy fixes; I'm scared to take my bike to the shop..
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