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post #46 of 127 (permalink) Old 27th March 2005, 03:30 PM
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Any chance of scanning the Croft section of the MCN Circuit Guide for me? I'm heading back there for my first of the year - 7th April (there's still places if anyone's interested).

I've just re-read the advice and it's amasing how much sense it makes - especially the tools for tinkering bit. I've never been so popular as last time I went with a tank bag full of tools...

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Any chance of scanning the Croft section of the MCN Circuit Guide for me? I'm heading back there for my first of the year - 7th April (there's still places if anyone's interested).

I've just re-read the advice and it's amasing how much sense it makes - especially the tools for tinkering bit. I've never been so popular as last time I went with a tank bag full of tools...

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donnington track day 19th april

just a quick line to let you all know hottrax are doing donnington for a special price of 135quid on the 19th april im booked in for the inters , if any of you are up for it i will see you there or pm me and let me know, their booking line number is 08707669861 all the best steve......
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just a quick line to let you all know hottrax are doing donnington for a special price of 135quid on the 19th april im booked in for the inters , if any of you are up for it i will see you there or pm me and let me know, their booking line number is 08707669861 all the best steve......
B*gger, I'm flying out on holiday that day...I want to do Donnington this year as well!

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post #50 of 127 (permalink) Old 4th July 2005, 06:36 PM
 
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Timbo, some excellent adivce on here for us virgins , just a couple of questions regarding the forthcoming track day?

Do most tracks allow 2 piece leathers that zip together?
Does the Lid have to have the gold stamp?
I heard that draining the coolent and re filling with water is a good idea, or is this complete bollox?
I am due a service ( over due ) and was gonna wait until after the track day. I s this advisable?
Any other bike set up adivce for a track day?

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All trackdays allow two piece leathers, as long as they zip together.

Normally they expect the helmet to have an ACU sticker (that most makes have) but on the 6 track days I have done I have never seen them check any of the riders kit, including helmets.

That one about the coolant is a new one on me. I would leave it as standard, as any advantage is minimal plus you have the hassle of buggering about with coolant before and after the track day. I know loads of blokes who do track days and never heard of any of them doing this.

As for the service, if it was me I'd get it done before hand, so that you know the engine has nice and fresh oil and filter. The bike will get worked quite hard, and the service may throw up a number of things that you may not have thought of checking (i.e. coolant levels, amount of meat left on the brake pads etc) so I'd get it done before hand.

I'm more than happy to help out anyone on the day with setup advice and general tips. I'll be there with my bro, and we will be bringing a transit so will have tools and stuff like that so can help anyone that needs it.

One thing I do and so do many track day enthusiasts is to drop your front and rear tyre pressures a couple of PSI before you start. This is because the tyres get worked much harder than on the road and hence the air expands more as it gets hot. After that I would say generally ride the first session carefully on your standard road set up. Learn the track and build up the speed. Then start general tinkering with the suspension and stuff.

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All trackdays allow two piece leathers, as long as they zip together.

Normally they expect the helmet to have an ACU sticker (that most makes have) but on the 6 track days I have done I have never seen them check any of the riders kit, including helmets.

That one about the coolant is a new one on me. I would leave it as standard, as any advantage is minimal plus you have the hassle of buggering about with coolant before and after the track day. I know loads of blokes who do track days and never heard of any of them doing this.

As for the service, if it was me I'd get it done before hand, so that you know the engine has nice and fresh oil and filter. The bike will get worked quite hard, and the service may throw up a number of things that you may not have thought of checking (i.e. coolant levels, amount of meat left on the brake pads etc) so I'd get it done before hand.

I'm more than happy to help out anyone on the day with setup advice and general tips. I'll be there with my bro, and we will be bringing a transit so will have tools and stuff like that so can help anyone that needs it.

One thing I do and so do many track day enthusiasts is to drop your front and rear tyre pressures a couple of PSI before you start. This is because the tyres get worked much harder than on the road and hence the air expands more as it gets hot. After that I would say generally ride the first session carefully on your standard road set up. Learn the track and build up the speed. Then start general tinkering with the suspension and stuff.

Hope this helps

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Thanks Dave
Much appreciated, the bit about swapping the coolant for water i'm sure I read on here somwhere!!!
I'm soooooo looking forward to this trackday :supsmiley
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Davis said it all to be honest, best thing is to drop the tyres down to 30 psi front and back (as California SBC recommend).

No idea about the coolant, I've not heard that one before, maybe Chainsaw could answer?

As for Llandow, you make sure all your kit is up to scratch and they leave you to it, it's a VERY relaxed day as for as 'rules and regs' go.

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I've PM'd CW about this one...I see that he's replying to it as I type this. I have a feeling this is going to be a long 'un!


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Lot of tracks here want either distilled water or distilled water mixed with Water Wetter or another type of track approved lubricant/coolant. Most anti-freeze is like ICE on the track. I have had no problem keeping mine in on the track for some of the casual track days, but I know some of the track days will make you empty it, so might be a pain, but might help you pass Tech.
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Track Day Coolant

Different places have different rules I am sure, so you will have to specifically ask the governing orginization about their specific rules.

Although I am a veteran of about 13 years of club racing, I have never done one of these non-competition Track Days. So the only input I can give you is my old-geezer-who-used-to-race crap, which might not apply.

In general, antifreeze is a big no-no at a race track. If it leaks it is slippery, and much more difficult to clean up than oil. Oil can be absorbed by Grease Sweep or Cement powder and cleaned up a bit, but Glycol and other Antifreezes just gunk up the absorbants and leave a slimy coating on the asphault that won't clean up with out water.

I know of no road racing orginization that allows antifreeze. I believe some allow Water Wetter, but for the most part only straight water is allowed in the cooling system.

I understand Track Days usually have a lower safety standard for Tech Inspections as it is geared towards run-what-you-brung street riders. So I imagine it is possible they may allow Antifreeze, but If I were to do a Track Day I would really hope the bike falling down 1/2 lap ahead of me is not dumping Glycol on the track surface!


So ultimately I do not answer the question. I just tell ya' the check with who ever is putting on the track day.

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Thanks guys, I dont think I will be doing it then unless told to do so.

Makes sense tho , just wish cars and lorries had to do so on the road
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Read about disconnecting the lights before running on the track. I've did that too with my first track day, although I had to cover the head- and taillights with tape as well. Disconnecting the lights is a very easy thing to do on the SV. Just pull of the connectors of the headlight (black connectors, located behind/underneath the display) and you're all set to go. No need to loosen or disconnect the fuse. The same can be done at the rear, where you'll only need to disconnect the white connector underneath the buddy seat. That way you'll also prevent the tape on the lights from becoming TOO sticky because of the heat of the lights.
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Tim, it's several months since I made a note to copy your tips and information to my website.........finally got round to doing it!!

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Tim, there're several useful posts by other guys....maybe you could compile these into one last section along the lines of 'Additional comments' or something?.....I just haven't got time.

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