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As I mentioned in an earlier post, my SV was the latest to succumb to the dreaded “green plug” failure. Since I know at least a few peeps had their entire ignition switches replaced under warranty, I thought I should test mine before swapping out the crappy green connector for one with more beef. I used a simple continuity test light, and found that it showed no continuity to one of the outgoing wires when the ignition switch was in the ON position. The wire showing no continuity was the thin orange with yellow stripes which goes to the Electronic Control Module.

Assuming I had a bad connection inside the ignition switch, I set about taking it apart. Since this isn’t addressed in the factory service manual, I thought I’d post the experience in case anybody else out there thinks they need to do this. I posted step-by-step photos in my album, for those of you who are bored or morbidly curious.

http://www.socalsvriders.org/module...oto_Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

In the interest of selling you a replacement ignition switch if yours fails ($92.05 at Ron Ayers http://www.ronayers.com/BrowseParts.cfm?product_id=37100-16G00 ), Suzuki secures the back cover of the ignition switch with tamper-resistant screws. At first I thought they were rivets, but after drilling into the heads and poking around with a screwdriver, I got them to unscrew. Knowing this, you could probably drill two small holes off-center and opposite one another in the heads of the screws and then use a needle-nose to turn them out.

As you can see by the photos, this ignition switch is really super-simple once you get the cover off. The little white thing in the top (I'll refer to it as an "armature" for now) of the assembly that turns with the key can go on two ways, meaning that if the contacts are worn on one terminal you can rotate it a half-turn and have a fresh set of contacts.

Upon disassembling the switch, I discovered why I wasn’t getting continuity to the wire going to the ECM: there is a resistor wired into the circuit panel which connects between the armature and the wire going to the ECM. Had I used an ohm-meter instead of a test-light :doh: I would have discovered that there was continuity to this circuit…albeit at a resistance level of 98 ohms, which was evidently enough to defeat the test-light’s signal.

Why bother telling you all this, you ask? In my desperation to get my bike running again, I was considering bypassing the ignition switch until I got it working “properly” again (in other words, hot-wiring it). If I had done that, I most likely would have fried the ECM, which goes for $942 from Ron Ayers (OUCH!). :shocking: If it prevents one other person from attempting the same mistake, It makes this whole boring post (and the hours I spent working on the whole ordeal) worthwhile.

In any case, I cleaned up and the innards of the ignition switch, coated all the electrical parts with dielectric grease and reassembled it. Then I snipped off the insidious green plug and replaced it with the one shown in the photos, which is made to handle 120V (for those of you who’ve ever opened up your computer, it’s just like the plug that goes from your power supply to the disk drives. Should hold up to 12 volts OK.)

Well, I got it all back together and it’s working great. Feels great to be back on the road, just in time for summer! :supsmiley
 

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BTW, If you don't mind paying for 2-way S&H and waiting for the time it'll take to get here and back, I'm more than happy to drill out the screws and replace them for other site members. If you're buying a new one, you might want to get your shagged original opened up so you can have a spare. Alternatively, if you're just planning to toss the shagged one, you can send it to me (with your key and tumbler removed, of course) so I can keep some rebuilt ones on hand for those who don't want to spend $95 or more on a new one.

Again, I realize that in most cases it will be the connector and not the switch itself that gets shagged, but I still occasionally hear about peeps having to replace the entire unit. Just a thought.

Feel free to PM for further support.
 

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Hey kudos for the great how-to. Admins.... award?

The link to the photos is ellipsed though, BTL, can you fix that up for us?
 

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Upon disassembling the switch, I discovered why I wasn’t getting continuity to the wire going to the ECM: there is a resistor wired into the circuit panel which connects between the armature and the wire going to the ECM. Had I used an ohm-meter instead of a test-light :doh: I would have discovered that there was continuity to this circuit…albeit at a resistance level of .98 ohms, which was evidently enough to defeat the test-light’s signal.
The resistor should be 100 ohms. I think you may have gotten the decimal in the incorrect place. If the resistance was 0.98ohm the bike would spin over but not start. When building our race bikes you have to use a 100ohm resistor in order to remove the ignition switch.

Cheers
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Thanks for the write up. My switch is starting to freeze and won't turn on sometimes. I don't think it's the lock either. I really couldn't tell from the blow up diagram on ron Ayers if the elecrical part of the switch came off of the lock or not.

BTW... The link to your pics is broken.
 

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It probably was 98 ohms resistance I measured. I think I fixed the link to the photo album. If not, I'll attach the pictures here as soon as I remember how to format them for this site.

Also, if you're asking whether the ignition lock tumbler can be removed, the answer is yes. 2 screws and it's out. The mechanism that actually locks the fork, however, is integral to the ignition switch assembly. Whether the switch that Ron Ayers stocks includes the tumbler and a new key, I couldn't say, but there's no reason you can't continue using your original key.

BTW, if you haven't attempted to remove the ignition switch yet, you'll need a T-30 "Security" Torx bit to unbolt it from the upper triple clamp ($9.99 at Harbor Freight Tools, http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93388 , although I got my set on sale for $3.99 :niceone: )

Curiously, I checked after posting and my local dealer's microfiche only showed the replacement ignition switch as a kit including new keys and a new matching seat lock and gas cap...for about $250 :spank:
 

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Hi,just became a member of the SV Portal and read your post on this ignition switch coupler just before I became a member. I just wanted to say thanks verymuch for the much needed info. It worked out great my bike is roaring like a tiger again, and to everyone else who's trown their input in on this issue...cheers.

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So I replaced my ignition switch on my 02 sv650s and now when turning the key on I get nothing. But when I turn it all the way back to where the forks are still locked I get power but no spark. I'm stumped here not knowing what it could be
 

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So I replaced my ignition switch on my 02 sv650s and now when turning the key on I get nothing. But when I turn it all the way back to where the forks are still locked I get power but no spark. I'm stumped here not knowing what it could be
Did you use cheap knock off switch? I refuse to install most of the junk available because it never works right and many of them do not even have the anti theft 100Ω resistor in them.

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Yes I had no choice but to go cheap. Would the lack of a resistor cause me to have no power in the key on position but power when key is turned all the way back?
No resistor will make the bike light up. It will spin but not start.

I have seen several switches that were plain built incorrectly and wired backwards and all kinds of stuff.

-ms
 
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