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#1 ·
I have created a magnet ring that can be used to replace the original magnets with only a fraction of the cost. Just would like to find out if it is worth manufacturing?
 

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#2 ·
Well, if that works, you may well have the Holy Grail, it wil also work on the 1st gen DL1000's as well.

If you have been able to do it, then i think your first port of call is getting somebody unbiased to try it out in the wild and see how it
works out for them, and that will probably make you a Rand or two for the future.....
Ensuring it provides the correct current supply and also puts up with the abuse a v-twin hands out is the real teller

What is it taking you in terms of time to make? And, considering the cost of material, which theoretically would decrease if you bought it in larger amounts, you need to make enough
to be profitable, and maybe absorb a replacement cost if one fails.
 
#27 ·
Hi guys, I'm totally new here. Ben..., this is a common problem on the SV range of bikes, so , if you can, and it works, why not! I think this will work on the SV 's and also on the DL's, so you might have a nice market. Just market it well. I had this problem two years ago and Suzuki had a battle finding the spares.
Have a lekker day.
 
#3 ·
Thank you for the advice. Last year in july two magnets on my SV came loose and broke, I struggled with my search for magnets and decided to do something else and it worked, my bike is running without any issues since last year august.

I did alot of testing and research and got it working perfectly at a very low cost, the time of manufacturing can be improved with better equipment thus my enquiry of interest.
 
#7 ·
I don't know if this would be profitable. I do know there is a market for it! And that is where it all starts. I think this could sell in the $200-$300 range assuming it is something that can be installed with the rotor still on the bike. While I am past wanting to take on anything like this as a business, this could have been quite an addition to my clutch basket modification service. Keeping rotors in stock that have this installed for exchange would likely have been a good business plan. I don't know what is involved in making these so cannot really say what it will take to make them in numbers that allow cost reduction per unit. But worth looking into for sure. You WILL need to make some of these and send them out to owners to test to prove them.
 
#10 ·
That is exactly what I am thinking, to get somebody outside of my circle to fit and test, the selling price you are suggesting is a bit high, I was thinking of about half the selling price you suggested. But yes shipping cost might be a bit of a headache, I will look into it. I would like to buy some old rotors with broken or no magnets to modify for exchange units. I designed the magnet ring as a direct fit, it should be possible to fit without removing the rotor from the bike, depending on the clean removal of the old magnets.
 
#8 ·
Yeah, agree with realshelby.
If there is someone who maybe has a spare rotor with damaged magnets that they swapped out for a new one, who is prepared to reinstall it and test ?

Freighting goods into and/or out S.A. to the rest of the world is gong to be the killer maybe
 
#15 ·
@THUMBTACMO @BenStrydom you guys might be close enough to make a road trip to meet up at a mutual spot to at least look at the
ring magnet and the rotor.

Totally agree with realshelby on the value of it too you. As i mentioned in my first post, you could also market this on V-Strom sites for the 1st gen DL1000..... they have the same issues we have had
 
#19 ·
Just dropping in to register my interest in this idea.
Honestly, would even consider paying the postage to Australia in case the JB Weld solution only ends up spalling inside the flywheel long-term. A mechanical solution like this (a single ring) sounds like the ultimate fix.
 
#22 ·
hello, what is your definition of spalling and what is long term in your opinion. Also the J.B. fix ....the proceedure i saw involved putting J.B. weld between the magnets is this the correct way. forgive my ignorance i dont have alot of time to research as much as i should and i cant afford another bike. just needs some advice. thx
 
#25 ·
My JBWeld fix is holding for 20.000km.
But I did it slowly. Clean and degrease everything as thoroughly as possible. Sand magnets and rotor surface thoroughly. There is no glue or epoxy or anything which would hold well on any smooth surface. You have to always give it something to grab on. This might be one of the major reasons why factory epoxy doesn't last. Usually it is still holding well on magnets, but rotor surface is almost like a mirror. Then I did gluing and gap filling in 3 stages. Waited for 24 hours between each stage, sanded, cleaned and degreased everything between each stage, and then waited for 48 hours before putting everything back together. JBWeld is curing really slowly. But despite being an old product, even modern tests are showing that it is still one of the most durable, temperature and chemical resistant epoxy (combination of all of those is important, there are some which are better in one segment but not good in the other) on the market.
 
#30 ·
sweet so obviously the JB weld between the magnets is what holds everything in place. Awsome, i have another question...is there anyway to tell without removing the side case whether mine are actually dislodged so to speak? Ill tell you guys and gals if any on here, im starting to think all these mods...... the clutch, the magnet issue and the hp fuel filter by-pass which ive done already are all going to need attention before its reliable enough for some long ride mialage.... ive just isolated a failing T.P.S. which i did not realize they can just have issues fading in and out and out of the blue. tried adjusting it several times, it would pure like a kitten after adjusting then cycle on and off a few times fire it off and bam completely off and running like sh*t. waiting on a o.e.m. tps at the moment andd cant ride very far for fear it will start running like crap. One more thing have you heard of the oil pump being starved when riding any lengths of a wheelie?
 
#31 ·
Hey there Missing Link, you my friend have helped me out a tone so far with all your posts to other riders. I appreciate your and others for your knowledge and history with these thumpers its priceless. I was under the impression you were retired from SV Portal. Whatever the case Im glad your back? I went back to stock gearing to go along with what you had said on here and was completely blown away with the ride ability through out every gear. very smooth my speedometer was reading correctly. the priar owner must have like to wheelie alot. IDK but its wheelie happy with stock gearing with a quick blip on the clutch. really started enjoying the bike after that adjustment..... so Thx
 
#34 · (Edited)
@CIT2BIT/65 Yeah, i am going to pull out of the forum, its a bit hard to let go though.... was partly sticking around in case oldbladsob needed any advice on moderation stuff, but i think he is all good. Just habit now, ha ha....

Hey @BenStrydom, that little pack looks great.... might i suggest something to pack the ring a bit firmer inside the box...transport over distance brings many big hits...
We all wish you had been around a lot earlier ha ha.
I will see if i can direct some business your way from the V-Strom community, the 1st gen DL1000 suffered the same issue, same magnets. Though, it may be worth getting an accurate ID measurement of the DL flywheel, though, the radius of the magents would indicate its the same..

There should some Strommers in your neck of the woods to get a start.