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2003 SV1000S fork oil change notes

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#1 · (Edited)
I'm now in the habit of putting my thoughts down on procedures that might occur years apart. I had to consult the manual and read and reread the instructions on fork oil before it became clear. Also, there were gotchas. I'm going to assume the reader is a decent home mechanic and leave out bike jacking, wheel and fork removal procedures. These notes would supplement a thorough read of the Suzuki or other manual. Note also these instructions were revised on 10.4.22 to say the long thin rod that fits inside the "inner rod" is removed when setting fork level.

Fork oil replacement - notes from 10.2.22
1. Forks still on bike - loosen fork cap slightly
2. Remove forks from bike
3. Separate top cap from cartridge unit. Use a 14mm wrench to turn the preload adjuster in the opposite direction of nut #17 on the Suzuki parts diagram. Once nut #17 is released the top cap spins off and separates from the rest of the assembly.
4. Now remove the "spring guide" that sits at top of the white plastic spacer, the plastic spacer and the main spring. Also, remove the long thin rod from the body of the "cylinder" aka part #13". That thin inner rod displaces just about 3mm of fluid height. Don't ask me how I found that out. When setting oil level, everything else stays in the fork body. Another way to look at it is everything loose comes out when setting fork oil level. What remains is held in by the bolt at the bottom of the fork.
5. Dump the old oil. Optional - consider a method of more thoroughly cleaning the assembly internals by removing the bottom bolt. Note an air ratchet is sometimes necessary for that and thread locker is called for upon reassembly. Bottom bolt removal is not necessary for a routine fork oil change.
6. With the "inner tube aka part #12" all the way down in the "main body aka part #4", add roughly 450ml of oil.
7. With fingers, pull the "cylinder aka part #13" 5 inches up and down slowly 10 times. Wait 6 – 8 minutes more until all bubbles are gone. Recheck for bubbles by slowly pulling the cylinder up a few inches and pushing it back down slowly. If no bubbles then proceed.
8. Check oil level with a straight coat hanger section marked with white electrical tape or other nonabsorbent tape. It’s easy to dip and view the oil level on the nonabsorbent tape. Add oil a bit at a time until 162mm from top.
9. Insert spring
10. Reach through spring and pull cartridge aka part #13 upwards with long tape covered needle nose pliers.
11. Insert the long thin rod inside the cylinder. Interestingly there is no separate part number for that rod in the diagrams. It's considered to be part of part #13 even though removable.
12. Insert white spacer and locator over the cylinder aka part #13.
13. Make sure you set the height of nut #17 at 11mm from the top of the threaded section as per Suzuki.
14. Screw the fork cap onto the cartridge taking care not to rotate nut #17. (reverse of step 3) and then onto the fork body.
 
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#4 ·
Also make sure that the allloy rebound adjustment rod is removed from the threaded internal rod, as it alters the fluid level a few mm's.....
I use a set of vernier calipers to measure the depth of the oil......the extension piece is a perfect dipstick, with a torch you can see a fisheye appear as it touches the fluid.
And personally, pull that bottom bolt every time and remove the cartridge.....doesn't take much longer, and you get a much better long term result
 
#5 · (Edited)
I reviewed your tip on removing the inner rod. After yet another reread it appears you are correct. Suzuki says to install the "adjuster rod" at the same time as the fork cap bolt and that would occur after setting fork level. See reference to installing the fork cap bolt and "adjuster rod" in the illustration below. I'm revising the instructions that started this post accordingly.

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#9 ·
So by your read I'm slightly overfull on fork oil right now. Maybe not a bad thing. It's been raining for days with the remnants of Ian so will hopefully roadtest the work tomorrow.
 
#7 ·
I've only ever done this on one bike so not sure if relevant for the SV but at step 1 I found that the upper yoke pinch bolt needed to be released before removing the fork cap (the lower yoke needs to be left clamped to prevent stanchion rotating) without doing this the cap was very tight. I've also seen videos where the cap was completely destroyed by not doing this.
 
#8 ·
It is absolutely critical to loosen the top fork pinch bolts prior to loosening caps. You will often damage threads if you do not.

Back both the compression and rebound adjusters to the full out position after noting initial position. This will later help with bleeding and also help from potentially damaging critical parts inside the cartridge.

When bleeding the fork after filling with oil, you need to bleed/pump cartridge and also pump fork tube multiple times. You will trap air in the oil lock if you do not.

You need to set the thread protrusion of the cartridge rod from the lock nut. If this is not set, you can either not have proper adjustment range or you can damage adjuster rod and in some cases adjuster needles and apertures.

If you do not know the service history of your forks I highly recommend removing cartridge and dismantling it (03-04) and cleaning the valving out along with other pieces. On the 05-07, flush the cartridge with solvent and pump to try and get debris out of the valving and cartridge bore.

My 2 cents.
-ms
 
#10 ·
Hey everybody well the SV is running awesome but really feeling the poor suspension now. Between this forum & found a great YouTube video from 'Ken's Shed' I beileve, I'm feeling confident to getting the forks removed.
So I found some All Balls kits, hell I'll just screen shot it. Is there anything else to order? & the consensus seems to be stay with 5wt fork oil? Thanks!!
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#11 ·
Hey everybody well the SV is running awesome but really feeling the poor suspension now. Between this forum & found a great YouTube video from 'Ken's Shed' I beileve, I'm feeling confident to getting the forks removed.
So I found some All Balls kits, hell I'll just screen shot it. Is there anything else to order? & the consensus seems to be stay with 5wt fork oil? Thanks!!
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Seems like you got what you need to service the forks.
I've once bought All Balls stuff and will never do so again. The bushings were out of spec causing the forks to stick. Also one of the oil seals failed after two years of riding.

I rather stick with a name brand or OEM. All Balls seems to just sell what ever they could get for cheap that given week.

A little lifehack can be to the local agriculture workshop. For instance Agco (Massy Ferguson, Fendt, Valtra) carry their own line of bearings. They are normal SKF bearings packed in a Agco labeled box, just a little cheaper than you will normally find.
I see you are from US, John Deere is probably way bigger over there, and they will probably do the same trick with some company making good bearings.

For oil, search though the forum, any 5w oil won't have same viscosity.
 
#13 ·
Well damn, that doesn't sound good. Not the line of business to be like 'close enough!' ?!?!!!! I guess I'll order OEM. Hated spending so much on the OEM hoses but hey they lasted almost 20 years so they must be doing something right.
I used All Balls for the steering stem bearings in my Intruder 1500LC & they were perfect.
 
#21 ·
Do you guys have a jack or stands that you like? I had the SV on my craftsman jack last tire change & it was quite sketchy as there's nothing flat on the bottom. I have a rear stand but nothing for the front. Just trying to figure out how to support it to remove the forks. No open rafters in the garage to support from the ceiling.
 
#31 ·
So is this homemade TRE the latest way to go?

EDGELEC 100pcs 6.8K ohm Resistor 1/4w (0.25 Watt) ±1% Tolerance Metal Film Fixed Resistor, Multiple Values of Resistance Optional https://a.co/d/3kcgYu3

Makes me a bit nervous but I think I can handle a couple simple solders on one wire.