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From my experience last night after reading the service manual.... but what I did was first sync the plates by first setting the forward STV flat in the horn then setting the rear one to matching the forward one.... after that unplug the STV actuator and push probes in on the connect STV sensor and turn the key on...... then reading DC volts..... manually rotate the STV actuator to full open and then set the STV sensor to output 4.38volts-DC which is the spec.........I checked resistance for the heck of it after and it was about 4.11 ohms..... all they care about though is that the STV sensor outputs 4.38v DC at WOT.
I just checked mine as I was waiting for my k&n air filter to arrive so I figured that would be a good time to do it. I too followed along the same logic as shoman94. First thing I did was check to see if both plates were perfectly flat in the closed position and boy were they way off. I used a depth caliper to get a precise reading from the top of the bore to either side of the throttle plate. On the rear cylinder I had a measurement of 24.25 mm on one side and 21.58 on the other. I adjusted each plate to have the same measurement on either side.(within range of the play in the rod linkage). Once I had both plates perfectly flat on both cylinders I Initially I set Stv sensor to .58k ohms when closed which left me at 4.60 open. I was happy with that result except that the voltage reading at wot was 4.17v. The manual states 4.38v so I adjusted for 4.38 volts and rechecked the resistance and it was back up to .89 to 1.03 closed. I left it there and will road test once it stops raining. I think syncing the front and rear plates will make the biggest difference if any. So while I was in there I plugged the pair, stuck a few washers under the tank grommets and installed the k&n. I'm expecting to feel some kind of a difference.
 
Wow, I think I can officially call her a Beast now. OK maybe some of it is psychological cause I've been itching to ride the last few days and I mentally expected a big difference from the recent add ons but it feels a lot smoother and crisper throttle response and a bit throatier. I think the tank raise and the K&N helped greatly as I was running a little rich on the heal tech base map. Love the new Zero Gravity ST, will make highway riding a lot more comfortable and looks great too.
 
Wow, I think I can officially call her a Beast now. OK maybe some of it is psychological cause I've been itching to ride the last few days and I mentally expected a big difference from the recent add ons but it feels a lot smoother and crisper throttle response and a bit throatier. I think the tank raise and the K&N helped greatly as I was running a little rich on the heal tech base map. Love the new Zero Gravity ST, will make highway riding a lot more comfortable and looks great too.
Sweet !

Cylinders have matched/synched intake, K&N hopefully flows a bit more than stock filter, cooler and more air in if you removed snorkel and lifted tank . Makes sense, more air in and better matched flow = more power if A/F ratio is good.

How do you know it was running rich ?



...................Blake
 
I just came back from another ride and it still feels and sounds better but if I had to pick the best upgrade of them all I think it would have to be the windshield,believe it or not. It just makes riding a lot more comfortable and enjoyable not having all that wind smacking off of your face.
Nihilist- I lost about 10 % fuel economy after installing the heal tech tuner and their base map and that was consistent over several tanks.
 
Removed my STV's yesterday- didn't notice any difference. I have k&n, tank spacers, 2 into 1 yosh...
This is surprising....as you should have noticed a large change in how the throttle responds. Something is wrong with your bike! (but you know that..hence the other threads trying to fix it.) I wish you weren't on the other side of the Country man....would love to play with your bike to see what is wrong.
 
Removed my STV's yesterday- didn't notice any difference. I have k&n, tank spacers, 2 into 1 yosh...
Have you tried removing the airbox lid and holding the filter in place with screws/washers ?

Give it a go. Easy enough to try.



.......................Blake
 
i`m just curious...what year sv650 are we talking about? I might have problem with my valves/sensors but i can`t be sure. I saw a video online of a 2009 sv650 and the valve plates open and Close completely, while my 2004 sv650`s valves don`t close completely (i`m talking about the self dance when u start the engine). So i was wondering if everything is ok with my bike and i need to try to find my problem elsewhere or should i focus on this "problem"? Here is a youtube link of the 2009 bike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dkXIIf7U20

And here is a link of my bike valve plates(note that in the beginning i closed them completely by hand) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJq6E1vNXuY
 
I think it gets a signal from the coolant temp sensor and the ambient air temp sensor, so depending how hot or cold may make a difference. I dont know if it goes thru a self test first just to cycle the servo
 
Hi is there no one that tested and take the second set of butterflyes away???!!
I dont buy that talk about carbs its fuel injection!!! The SV1000 body looks same as TL1000s but you have the extra set of butterflyes!! so why not just try and remove the butterflyes only and se what happens!!?? I have an -97 TLs and its was something demonic the first summer with it!!!
Anybody know someone who has an SV1000 ecu im interested in putting it on my S so I can adjust both fuel and ignition!!!!

////Jörgen
 
Many of us are running SV1K's without the STV's. Won't put mine back in ever. If you like a more responsive throttle....taking them out is a good thing to do.
 
Many of us are running SV1K's without the STV's. Won't put mine back in ever. If you like a more responsive throttle....taking them out is a good thing to do.
Ditto.

Put mine back in at one point, just to refresh my memory on how the bike felt... my immediate reaction was "now I know why these bikes weren't popular" :no:

The STVs were removed within the hour, and will never go back in.

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Ditto.

Put mine back in at one point, just to refresh my memory on how the bike felt... my immediate reaction was "now I know why these bikes weren't popular" :no:

The STVs were removed within the hour, and will never go back in.

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I removed the STV butterfly's today. The screws presented no problems and came right out.

Results were as expected. The bike is clearly more crisp at 6000 RPM+, upon rapid throttle opening. Or when throttle is opened/closed/opened rapidly. It's not more "snatchy" or difficult to ride. The engine responds to the throttle more rapidly in neutral, when simply revving vroom-vroom style.

It does sound a bit different upon rapid throttle opening. It produces no more power or mid range torque.

I also suspect a proper tune could optimize the midrange mixture and timing for additional gains.
 
So, what's the current take on the secondary valves? I'm rebuilding this SV1000 and it looks like one of the previous owners had his way with some "free" mods. The airbox snorkel is gone and it looks like the secondary plates are stuck in the full open position.

I'm wondering if it's worth it to try and revert whatever the PO did to the secondaries and sync them properly like this thread covers, or if I should just remove them.

I'm a super novice rider and this is my first bike. My wife will also be learning on it. I'm kind of in the mindset that a little slower throttle response would be a good thing for learning, but I want the bike to run properly and not throw off the stock tune with many tweaks.
 
Oh man....the SV is a LOT of bike to learn on! In your case, you probably DO want the STV's working as they'll help cover the over-throttle situation in the lower gears and maybe help prevent a disaster. The bike will still GO like hell when you grab a handful, but with the STV's softening the power it shouldn't be nearly as wheelie happy as it is with them out.

If the PO did something to make the STV's stay open all the time...it should have the 'FI' warning light on. Are you sure they don't move? When the engine is cold, they open fully as this is how the Fast Idle cam is activated. Once it warms up they progressively close and when fully warm pretty much follow the main throttles. When you turn on the ignition you should hear them 'whirrrr-whirrr' as they cycle through and go to the Fast Idle position from the fully warmed where they were left when you shut it off.

The stock tune is actually pretty decent, so if it runs well....leave it alone for at least a while. The early snorkel was found to be too long and seemed to hurt the power, and this was remedied in the K5+ with a shorter version that runs really well. Were I you, I'd get the later snorkel as this helps the light throttle cruise economy and should take a bit of WOT torque away down low....should help with street running.
 
Thanks for the info.

Yeah, I was messing with the STVs the other day and, working under the assumption that they might have been messed with or stuck, I tried to remove the actuator arm from the front TB. In doing so, I think it partially stripped the motor. Awesome. Afterward, I found out that they are in fact working fine, as you said. They were supposed to be full open.

I went through the adjustment procedure anyway and set the sensor. The motor just seems to jump a tooth or something with pressure applied. I don't know if it will stay in place with just the motor driving the STVs or if it will jump back and forth each time it tries to move them. I'm going to see how the bike acts and probably just remove them if the motor damage causes an issue.

I feel pretty silly about doing that. But, I've also never stripped a motor attempting to loosen a nut. First time for everything I guess.

As for learning on the bike, I agree that it's a lot of bike to learn on. I'm not oblivious to that. All I can do it take it easy and learn slowly and try not to get hurt. I've got a little bit going for me as I have a couple of cars that I race frequently, and it's made me drive like a grandma on the street, even with 400+ whp on tap. I just do much less of the stupid stuff I did when I was younger now. I'm hoping that translates to the bike.
 
The problem on a fast bike is you can be as careful as you can be...but mistakes WILL happen...and when they do, things happen fast enough to be dangerous. The throttle response on the SV1K is something I'd be worried about with a new rider...even one trying to be as careful as possible. Sure, you can learn to ride around without it killing you...but you'll never learn how to use the full potential of the bike without getting very hurt. Being able to rail on a small displacement machine is the best way to learn about how riding fast is done...and when you crash (it's a when..not an if) you'll not be going so fast (hopefully) that you'll be able to recover and learn from the experience. Best of luck to you!:)
 
Yeah, I plan on screwing up at some point sooner than later. The bike was free to me as I was willing to repair it. So, I'll have about $800 in it in the end. It would be hard to get a decent learner bike for that, so I'm okay with the steeper learning curve.
 
Yeah, I plan on screwing up at some point sooner than later. The bike was free to me as I was willing to repair it. So, I'll have about $800 in it in the end. It would be hard to get a decent learner bike for that, so I'm okay with the steeper learning curve.
A healthy dose of self preservation instinct and baby steps. You will be just fine.
 
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